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Old 07-07-2011, 08:28 PM   #31
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Five floating city concepts. It's pretty cool in concept.

http://weburbanist.com/2011/06/16/th...island-cities
Small towns, not real cities, but would probably work well. Very cool, and could be self sustainin
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:29 PM   #32
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I guess I'll put this one in here too!

The first one with Godin is very good.
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:31 PM   #33
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Small towns, not real cities, but would probably work well. Very cool, and could be self sustainin
I believe the last one was built as modular, so you could grow it based on need (within some kind of limits I would expect).

Yeah, I would hope self-sustaining was a goal of those floating towns.
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Or we could dump batteries altogether and go with air compression driven cars.
How about a battery-driven vehicle that uses it's own wind power to charge the cells as you drive?
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:43 PM   #35
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How about a battery-driven vehicle that uses it's own wind power to charge the cells as you drive?
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:11 PM   #36
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How about a battery-driven vehicle that uses it's own wind power to partially charge the cells as you drive?
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:16 PM   #37
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Never said 100, so you pretty much didn't fix anything.



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Old 07-08-2011, 01:17 PM   #38
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....and in any case, the idea was to get rid of the strip mining and disposal problems that batteries will present.
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Answer: Believe it or not, a wind turbine big enough to fit on top of the car would create such a small amount of power as to be inconsequential. Even a 10-foot wide wind turbine would be lucky to create 1000 watts of power during a fierce thunderstorm. Unfortunatly, 1000 watts of power is a drop in the bucket compared to the 20,000 watts most cars need just to move. Highway speeds would usually eat up closer to 40,000 watts of power. So at highway speeds your huge wind turbine on top of the car would be generating about 2.5% of the power needed to move the car. Unfortunatly, it would be adding about 50% more wind drag to the vehicle which means you would probably need an extra 10,000 watts of power just to make up the difference.
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Answer: Believe it or not, a wind turbine big enough to fit on top of the car would create such a small amount of power as to be inconsequential. Even a 10-foot wide wind turbine would be lucky to create 1000 watts of power during a fierce thunderstorm. Unfortunatly, 1000 watts of power is a drop in the bucket compared to the 20,000 watts most cars need just to move. Highway speeds would usually eat up closer to 40,000 watts of power. So at highway speeds your huge wind turbine on top of the car would be generating about 2.5% of the power needed to move the car. Unfortunatly, it would be adding about 50% more wind drag to the vehicle which means you would probably need an extra 10,000 watts of power just to make up the difference.
So just put a bigger turbine on...
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So just put a bigger turbine on...
That would be awesome to see...A little electric car with a tractor trailer size wind turbine on top of it
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That would be awesome to see...A little electric car with a tractor trailer size wind turbine on top of it
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That would be awesome to see...A little electric car with a tractor trailer size wind turbine on top of it
If it meant never having to buy a drop of gasoline again, I'd rock it.
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Answer: Believe it or not, a wind turbine big enough to fit on top of the car would create such a small amount of power as to be inconsequential. Even a 10-foot wide wind turbine would be lucky to create 1000 watts of power during a fierce thunderstorm. Unfortunatly, 1000 watts of power is a drop in the bucket compared to the 20,000 watts most cars need just to move. Highway speeds would usually eat up closer to 40,000 watts of power. So at highway speeds your huge wind turbine on top of the car would be generating about 2.5% of the power needed to move the car. Unfortunatly, it would be adding about 50% more wind drag to the vehicle which means you would probably need an extra 10,000 watts of power just to make up the difference.
Yep. I was going to comment on this, but I wasn't sure if he was joking or not, so I decided not to
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If it meant never having to buy a drop of gasoline again, I'd rock it.
IF anyone seriously believes they can generate enough power by driving into the wind to recharge their car, I have some really good land just south of Galveston!
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Yep. I was going to comment on this, but I wasn't sure if he was joking or not, so I decided not to
I think he was, but I'm that dude who always gets all super serious and my friends will be like "Dude, we're totally screwing with you" And I'm all like
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I always do this when I'm in a jam. It's a lot less stressful, and way more comfortable.

I can't believe everyone isn't doing it, it makes perfect sense.
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I drive a stick. Its way better for me to just leave a large gap and just drive the "average speed" its worked out well in both not having to break and not having to shift as much as well.

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I'm not gonna lie, if I were driving behind this guy I'd be going crazy.
Maybe, but you wouldn't be experiencing any stop-and-go. You'd be driving smoothly and a constant pace. What in traffic actually makes you crazy?

What kills me is the stop and go and the people braking unnecessarily (which is exactly what that sort of approach eliminates).
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Maybe, but you wouldn't be experiencing any stop-and-go. You'd be driving smoothly and a constant pace. What in traffic actually makes you crazy?

What kills me is the stop and go and the people braking unnecessarily (which is exactly what that sort of approach eliminates).
I generally try to do a sort of inbetween of what this guy does and what everyone else does, actually. I drive a stick so I'm familiar with the pain in the assedness of having to constantly shift. I'm not doing 90mph to get to the next stopping point and I always let people merge (unless they're being assholes), but seeing a guy doing 15mph less than everyone else (at some parts in the video) with a massive gap in front of him would make me impatient.
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Maybe, but you wouldn't be experiencing any stop-and-go. You'd be driving smoothly and a constant pace. What in traffic actually makes you crazy?

What kills me is the stop and go and the people braking unnecessarily (which is exactly what that sort of approach eliminates).
Except that around here drivers operate under the principle that void creates vacuum. That space would be filled up with cars in no time flat and he'd likely be stuck with about a 15 minute longer commute.
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I'm not gonna lie, if I were driving behind this guy I'd be going crazy.
That's a common reaction. I work with a company that ha develope advanced techniques based on this principle and their testing procedures invoke lots of honking and given of the finger. Of course their tests also break up huge traffic waves to the benefit of everyone.
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Except that around here drivers operate under the principle that void creates vacuum. That space would be filled up with cars in no time flat and he'd likely be stuck with about a 15 minute longer commute.
Drivers operate on that principle here (everywhere?) as well, but it doesn't work out as you describe.
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