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Old 07-15-2011, 06:15 AM   #1
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Multiple speakers, vertical Vs horizontal?

I have always been led to believe that stacking the speakers in your bass stack vertically is the way to go. Because it gives a horizontal response, which seems odd. Is it true?

And if so, in most situations, ones bass rig is for stage monitor. And no one else in the band really wants to hear the bass as much as you. Wouldn't it make more sense to stack the speakers horizontally? So the sound is not going past your legs and hips. Upper chest if you have 2x15s
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:11 AM   #2
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Horizontal = better coupling with the floor
Vertical = some speakers higher up = easier to hear
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:18 AM   #3
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Horizontal = better coupling with the floor
Vertical = some speakers higher up = easier to hear
That is kind of obvious thinking.
....But a lot of PA set ups use vertical stacked rigs for wider sound dispersion...
So If I, say have 2 1x12a stacked horizontally, I should in theory hear them easier then if they where vertical. right?
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:08 AM   #4
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Only if your ears are down on the floor...
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:24 AM   #5
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i always thought they started stacking speakers cause the stage was small and real estate was at a premium...
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:28 AM   #6
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I have always been led to believe that stacking the speakers in your bass stack vertically is the way to go. Because it gives a horizontal response, which seems odd. Is it true?

And if so, in most situations, ones bass rig is for stage monitor. And no one else in the band really wants to hear the bass as much as you. Wouldn't it make more sense to stack the speakers horizontally? So the sound is not going past your legs and hips. Upper chest if you have 2x15s
How do you "stack" something horizontally?

The fact is, your drivers work better and more efficiently in a vertical line. If other people in your band are hearing too much bass, turn the fuck down.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:30 AM   #7
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Vertical line array is the conventional wisdom.

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Horizontal = better coupling with the floor
Vertical = some speakers higher up = easier to hear
This. I like vertical.

EDIT: could vertical be more amp/speaker sound and horizontal lend to a room and stage reverberation sound?



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If other people in your band are hearing too much bass, they should get earplugs and suck it because more bass is ALWAYS more better.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:35 AM   #9
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Vertical line array is the conventional wisdom.

I was going to mention the wall of sound...I forget the science but IIRC the bass disperses more evenly when cabinets are stacked vertically (I'm hazy here though)
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:23 PM   #10
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The correct answer is: diagonal.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:19 PM   #11
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if you think about the sound coming out of a speaker like someone blowing a smoke ring, the higher the speaker, the further it will disperse horizontally, before bouncing off the floor, and ceiling...........or we could both drop a hit of acid and SEE if that is the case......
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:48 PM   #12
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you can't stack 210s horizontally
or 115s either

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Old 07-15-2011, 04:59 PM   #13
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Bottom cab turned toward the band, top cab aimed at me. Works quite well.

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Old 07-16-2011, 08:21 AM   #14
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I like your rig, neddy
I am not very happy with the way my thread turned out..but I still got you ice cream

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Old 07-16-2011, 08:47 AM   #15
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I like your rig, neddy
I am not very happy with the way my thread turned out..but I still got you ice cream

Well thanks a bunch for the IC.

Is this the kind of info you're looking for by any chance? http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/placement-amp-stage-need-opinions-561829
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