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Old 05-04-2011, 09:53 AM   #31
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They're completely opposite sounding pickups.
I don't know about completely opposite. I have two sets of Barts and a set of Fralin pickups. My Barts MIGHT be a little darker sounding, but nothing drastic, and they still sound like jazz pickups. It might depend on what Barts you end up getting. I don't know what model I have off hand, but I know I got the ones that are supposed to be a little brighter.
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Old 05-04-2011, 09:53 AM   #32
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At least the Fralins are actually Jazz pickups
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So are Barts
Hum-canceling, blade magnets, and no exposed polepieces...

No. They're. Not. Jazz. Pickups.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:06 AM   #33
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Hum-canceling
Mine are actually single coils, so they aren't hum-canceling.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:08 AM   #34
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It might depend on what Barts you end up getting.
Ahh durr.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:13 AM   #35
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I don't know about completely opposite. I have two sets of Barts and a set of Fralin pickups. My Barts MIGHT be a little darker sounding, but nothing drastic, and they still sound like jazz pickups. It might depend on what Barts you end up getting. I don't know what model I have off hand, but I know I got the ones that are supposed to be a little brighter.
Mine were the dark or bassy version. I think the soapbars in my jazz now are the bright ones tho because I have to dial back so much treble out of things, and it's the first time I've ever experienced that with a Bart. It's very possible that they are much more traditional jazz sounding then the bassy ones.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:32 AM   #36
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Mine were the dark or bassy version. I think the soapbars in my jazz now are the bright ones tho because I have to dial back so much treble out of things, and it's the first time I've ever experienced that with a Bart. It's very possible that they are much more traditional jazz sounding then the bassy ones.
Are you running them parallel or series? (the coils in each pickup)

I tried one, then the other.

Parallel was darker, clearer, and slightly weaker.

Series was bright, a little muddy, and stronger.

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Old 05-04-2011, 10:35 AM   #37
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Are you running them parallel or series? (the coils in each pickup)

I tried one, then the other.

Parallel was darker, clearer, and slightly weaker.

Series was bright, a little muddy, and stronger.

Razzle!
Parallel was darker??? Shit, that's the exact opposite of the Bart jazzes I have in my V Deluxe. I pulled it into Series when I wanted that added bass boost.

I've got these wired stock from the Hwy 1 plate, just swapped out the pups as is. I'd assume that's parallel, is it not? If it's going to get more bright with series, no bloody way am I trying that out.

EDIT: Wait... do you mean the coils within each pup? I honestly don't even remember if they were 4 conductor, I probably just put them in blindly, in parallel, without even thinking about it. Maybe I need Series pups that are wired parallel to each other. Hmm... must investigate this.
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Renfield, re: your avatar... are you ramping up for an upcoming release of something I don't know about?
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Parallel was darker??? Shit, that's the exact opposite of the Bart jazzes I have in my V Deluxe. I pulled it into Series when I wanted that added bass boost.

I've got these wired stock from the Hwy 1 plate, just swapped out the pups as is. I'd assume that's parallel, is it not? If it's going to get more bright with series, no bloody way am I trying that out.

EDIT: Wait... do you mean the coils within each pup? I honestly don't even remember if they were 4 conductor, I probably just put them in blindly, in parallel, without even thinking about it. Maybe I need Series pups that are wired parallel to each other. Hmm... must investigate this.
I mean the coils within each pickup. I think the leads should have all been snipped when you got them. You would have had to solder and tape to put them in-series.

I can't remember which way I tried "last" before sending them your way
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:43 AM   #40
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Renfield, re: your avatar... are you ramping up for an upcoming release of something I don't know about?
No, but today was supposed to be a big ass release for SW on Blu Ray I just learned. Their site had a countdown to release on today, Star Wars day, and apparently they failed to launch the page, it''s just a white screen.

I've got a buddy who's sitting there refreshing the screen every 2 minutes waiting for it.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:46 AM   #41
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I mean the coils within each pickup. I think the leads should have all been snipped when you got them. You would have had to solder and tape to put them in-series.

I can't remember which way I tried "last" before sending them your way
Honestly, I forget. If they were taped, I put them in as is, if they were exposed, I looked it up and did it parallel.

I can't access my soldering iron currently, it's buried in the hall closet under boxes, but I've got a growing list of work to do under a few pickguard hoods that I need to get to soon. I'll pop that one open when I do and see what's going on and try some experiments.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:44 AM   #42
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I have a Warmoth J with Barts and it sounds better than any J I've ever owned.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:58 AM   #43
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I have a Warmoth J with Barts and it sounds better than any J I've ever owned.
Do you know what set of Barts is in there?
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:29 PM   #44
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Do you know what set of Barts is in there?
Not off-hand but I'll look tonight and post tomorrow.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:21 PM   #45
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I know this is keeping you guys awake at night, in cold sweats, so I installed dimarzio ultra jazz pups, swapped in a 500 k pot in the neck pup ( it's defective, I had it lying around, it only works in the "all the way on"position, and swapped in a 500 k pot in the tone position, with a green capacitor thingy, and finally, I can start to hear the true voice of this bass. And it's fucking awesome. I plan on buying all new 500k pots for all soon, and I think this bass will finally sing like it should, unless i fuck up something else. I hope you all rest easy tonight, knowing that my fretless 4 banger is growing up.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:11 PM   #46
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Good to know!

I have had long discussions (emails) with Skip on what pups I want, but in the end, I really just have to trust him. But, lots of room to change out if needed.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:22 PM   #47
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Who has Barts in their J bass?

Mr. Nyswonger, I seem to remember that you perhaps might?


I am unhappy with the MIJ pups in the fretless i just built. Gigged with it last week and found the tonal options to be yucky. I like the Barts in my 5 string fretless.
I was considering them for the J bass defret / refinish I am doing. I really like the sound they have in the ibanez SR 500 I am thinking of picking up.

second choice and most likely I will put Dimarzios in the J....
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I've never been a Dimarzio fan, but if you like 'em...
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...and I was expecting a thread about how cool barts are in Chuck's Jazz...and I get Dimarzios.... sigh...
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...and I was expecting a thread about how cool barts are in Chuck's Jazz...and I get Dimarzios.... sigh...
sorry to disappoint you guys... i was confused by the many flavors of barts for J bass, and i wanted something a little more "classic J" sounding. These dimarzios are a huge improvement (to my ears) over the MIJ fenders
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I've had Bart J-J pickups in a couple of basses:

Pedulla Buzz (4-string fretless)
Leduc U-Bass (5-string fretless)
Custom neck-thru bass (5-string fretted)

They have less of the nasal "honk" and high-end "clack" of typical J-J pickups. It's a mellower and more balanced sound to my ears. I like them.
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