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Old 06-14-2011, 11:07 PM   #1
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Do you have your own monitor mix at gigs?

When we play fests or the biggest clubs I do. As a general rule I don't. When we supply PA, it's just been a limitation of our setup and gear on hand. As of tonight, we now have a setup whereby if I buy a powered monitor, I've got my own mix. I'm tempted.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:07 PM   #2
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I never have unless I was singing. It has been a long time since I did any singing.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:08 PM   #3
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What the hell is a gig?
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:39 AM   #4
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Nope.

It sounds like our keyboard player my try a submix setup with headphones as an interim step to IEMs.

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Old 06-15-2011, 12:46 AM   #5
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One time I did.. it was glorious..

Never again though.. singer needed more him.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:50 AM   #6
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Yup. Usually not a lot on it, though...
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Old 06-15-2011, 02:07 AM   #7
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Nope. A hand full of times in the last 16 years of gigging
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:25 AM   #8
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10 years of gigging, i've had "my own mix" twice. and they were both recent shows in the bigger, nicer clubs.

eh, the guitarist(s) and i are pretty well ok with the same mix, so it doesn't much matter.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:00 AM   #9
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80% of the time I have my own mix. The other 20% I share one with our drummer. We won't do the gig unless we have at least 4 discrete mixes. The next step is IEMs.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:17 AM   #10
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All I need is the kickdrum and snare... everybody else is just along for the ride
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:39 AM   #11
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Yes, but I sing quite a few songs.

If I was in a band where I was "just" the bass player, I wouldn't care much. I play better when I have a good mix, but I don't need it to play well.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:40 AM   #12
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I pretty much always do - but I also always sing, too... We balance our backline out pretty good by ourselves, so the only thing I typically have in my monitor is my vocals and some lead vocals, unless we're playing on a gigantic stage, then I *might* have some of the far side guitar in there, too - although that's rarely necessary, since he typically plays loud, and both guitars play thru Triple Rec half stacks...

Whenever possible, always get your own monitor mix - it's a great luxury to have... I can do 4 mixes without a monitor board with my own PA rig - and if I need more, I just use a splitter snake and a monitor board - and most other gigs we do will have 6 mixes available, so it's rarely an issue...


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Old 06-15-2011, 06:43 AM   #13
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All I need is the kickdrum and snare... everybody else is just along for the ride

I always play on the ride side, and our drummer usually gets his kick sent pretty strong thru the drum box, so hearing it is rarely a problem for me... I actually prefer not to hear the snare, if at all possible - but usually hear a little of it, anyways - I can't imagine actually asking for it in my monitor mix...

To each their own, though...


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Old 06-15-2011, 06:45 AM   #14
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:47 AM   #15
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I actually prefer not to hear the snare, if at all possible - but usually hear a little of it, anyways - I can't imagine actually asking for it in my monitor mix...

To each their own, though...


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Our drummer reverses the beat in parts on a few of our tunes... leading with the snare. I like to hear it. We also "fill" together quite a bit and it's nice to be on-point with that snare drum.

It's never in the monitor. I've never played a venue where I couldn't hear the drums.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:15 AM   #16
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I do have my own mix in my in-ear monitors. It's certainly nice to mix things the way I want to hear it.

EDIT: I do sing some background vocals, and in-ears are really great when you sing.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:18 AM   #17
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As of tonight, we now have a setup whereby if I buy a powered monitor, I've got my own mix. I'm tempted.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:24 AM   #18
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We won't do the gig unless we have at least 4 discrete mixes.
Wow - that's big time.

If the some of the bands I work with held to that criteria, we wouldn't gig much.

Typically we just run one mix of vocals - all even so we can blend ourselves.

If I'm doing a big gig with the Psychodots or Bears, we are working through pro level systems and will have separate mixes. That's nice and necessary under those circumstances...but the norm is just vocals through a few JBL EONS on the floor becuase the that's what our portable system accomodates.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:58 AM   #19
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We have one mix across the front (three of us) and same for any "guest" singer. We have a separate mix for the drummer, with more kick and more bass in the mix.


So, no.



We have discussed the in-ear monitors, but a couple of the guys will not chip in, and two of us refuse to fund the whole project. Stalemate.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:03 AM   #20
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About half of the gigs I've played I've been able to have my own mix
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:18 AM   #21
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Almost always. Usually the rooms we play have pretty decent sound. There are times when I split it with the 2nd guitar player, but I would say at least 70% of the time I have my own mix.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:52 AM   #22
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Back in the day, sometimes...

but these days I'm lucky if i can even hear the vocals
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:56 AM   #23
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We only have 4 monitors (3 mixes)...

One for the drummer, who is deaf, and I stand close enough to him to hear everything I need (vocals, etc) out of his mix. Keyboard has it's own because of stage location, then the singer(s) have one that is daisy chained to the guitardist(s) on the other end of the stage. We have 4 physical monitors and 3 mixes coming out. We often need more and want more, but our gear doesn't have the channels / amps for more right now...
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:44 AM   #24
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The one advantage of being the guy who bought the $10K system, brought it to the gig, set it up, and tore it down, is that I always get my own mix.
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Our front monitor line is routinely so loud that I just listen to the combination of theirs while I sit back at the drums. That said, my system gives us four independent mixes. I can't imagine running either without any monitors (how?) or with only one mix for the band; people always want "more me".

I think Burdizzos and I have spoiled the hell out of our bandmates (and probably the people we run sound for, as well). Four independent mixes and an A-level PA and they're getting it for basically nothing.
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Our front monitor line is routinely so loud that I just listen to the combination of theirs while I sit back at the drums. That said, my system gives us four independent mixes. I can't imagine running either without any monitors (how?) or with only one mix for the band; people always want "more me".

I think Burdizzos and I have spoiled the hell out of our bandmates (and probably the people we run sound for, as well). Four independent mixes and an A-level PA and they're getting it for basically nothing.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:46 PM   #28
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Most people aren't concerned enough with quality to pay a premium for anything. Why pay $300 for a Meyer FOH when you can get JRX for $100, especially when no one has heard of Meyer and everyone knows that JBL makes good shit.
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Old 06-15-2011, 03:32 PM   #29
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The one advantage of being the guy who bought the $10K system, brought it to the gig, set it up, and tore it down, is that I always get my own mix.
There you go.

But really it depends on the stage size. Half the time we're dealing with something so small that you can't fit more than one or two monitors on there, and even if you could they'd be right next to each other so why bother?
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