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Old 04-01-2013, 06:06 PM   #61
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Shallow vapid characters living lives devoid of any meaning or usefulness = pointless reading. Without even the insight to reveal how fucking pathetic they are.

I realise that's the point, but it's also not rewarding reading.
I like how Fitzgerald finds small points of sympathy for some of them, in addition to the way he delivers the implied criticism and the way his characters evolve. He's an acute observer of people, IMO.

For the most part, I really like his sense of how language flows and sounds.

Also how he deals with WWI demolishing not just idealism but the characters of people in his generation.

I remember being particularly moved in the 90s when I read his short story "Babylon Revisited." I don't remember it that well - need to reread - but IIRC, that character is full of (belated) insight as to his self-inflicted downfall.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:23 PM   #62
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I like how Fitzgerald finds small points of sympathy for some of them, in addition to the way he delivers the implied criticism and the way his characters evolve. He's an acute observer of people, IMO.

For the most part, I really like his sense of how language flows and sounds.
Agreed with both points - he has some fantastic descriptions of physical love and of personalities and the atmosphere of social/intimate gatherings.

For me, while I find his command of language excellent, the content of the stories is such that it's difficult for me to enjoy the books/language.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:32 PM   #63
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Agreed with both points - he has some fantastic descriptions of physical love and of personalities and the atmosphere of social/intimate gatherings.

For me, while I find his command of language excellent, the content of the stories is such that it's difficult for me to enjoy the books/language.
TBH, I didn't like Gatsby when it was forced on me in high school. Like you, I hated the characters. And - I didn't appreciate his use of language yet.

I'm glad I branched out. And that I re-read Gatsby later as a young adult and appreciated it more.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:01 PM   #64
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I'm almost done with part 6 (the first part of shift). It's style and progression is pretty much the same as Wool, but this time it's about how the silos were made/managed and splits between 3 people. Diggin it so far.
Finished up today. I liked it. Not as much as the first series, but I think that's mainly because there wasn't as much 'action'. It's starting a new story pre-silo and even in the Wool timeline it's more about power plays. If you can suspend belief to go along with the story's core components for control and submission, it's a great background to the first.

Having said all that, I really can't fucking wait for the 3rd after the ending in this!!!!!!!!111!11!11oneeeeeeeeeee!!!!
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BHK, my friend is finished with my digital copy of Wool (and he loved it) if you'd like me to lend it to you. Do you have the amazon kindle app (or a kindle)? Lemme know if you want it and I'll send it over.
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:39 AM   #66
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:04 AM   #67
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:44 AM   #68
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:55 AM   #69
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:34 AM   #73
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BHK, my friend is finished with my digital copy of Wool (and he loved it) if you'd like me to lend it to you. Do you have the amazon kindle app (or a kindle)? Lemme know if you want it and I'll send it over.
OOH! Yes! Let me know what info you need. I have the app, I just don't use it much.

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I'm currently reading Boy's Life by Robert McCammon. He wrote Swan Song which is probably my favorite book of all time. For some reason I haven't read anything else of his. Seems good so far.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:39 AM   #74
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OOH! Yes! Let me know what info you need. I have the app, I just don't use it much.
Man kindle is.pretty much what's gotten me back into reading. Waiting in class, eating out during lunch, etc... Bust out the kindle app whenever I.have downtime rather than jacking around with games or whatever, get so much reading done.

Anyway, let.me know when you're ready to.read it and ill.send it.over. all I need is.your email, which I.think I have(no internet atm). Loaned books have a 2 week limit, so... Not sure if a book.can be reloaned after the first period. Might need to test the theory.

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:50 AM   #75
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Man kindle is.pretty much what's gotten me back into reading. Waiting in class, eating out during lunch, etc... Bust out the kindle app whenever I.have downtime rather than jacking around with games or whatever, get so much reading done.

Anyway, let.me know when you're ready to.read it and ill.send it.over. all I need is.your email, which I.think I have(no internet atm). Loaned books have a 2 week limit, so... Not sure if a book.can be reloaned after the first period. Might need to test the theory.

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hmmm...okay. When you have internetz let me know. Two weeks is great plenty and I'll have a ton of reading time when I'm in Iowa this weekend.
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Just kidding, you can't have it. The 'loan this book' option isn't there, guess I can only loan it once? Or there's a timer on it or something. Don't feel like looking up the rules, but regardless the result is I can't loan it out.

If you feel like buying it, http://www.amazon.com/Wool-Omnibus-E...&keywords=Wool
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It's all good. I am looking forward to starting that. I'll finish my current read first however. I'm debating hard copy...
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I loved those books when I was younger. Haven't read one in years. I ought to go back to them. I bet he has a lot of new ones.
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I loved those books when I was younger. Haven't read one in years. I ought to go back to them. I bet he has a lot of new ones.
Yeah, they are entertaining and I'm only up to MYTH Inc Link so far... He has a bunch of other series' as well.

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